elementarystan:

jonnylmiller  I bee like…

I wonder if at this point bees have had more screen time and plot relevance than Ms Hudson

elementarystan:

jonnylmiller  I bee like…

I wonder if at this point bees have had more screen time and plot relevance than Ms Hudson

better-with-you-watson:

August 2nd 2014 - JLM & Lucy Liu

better-with-you-watson:

August 2nd 2014 - JLM & Lucy Liu

beanarie:

bulletproofbell:

elementaryconfessions:

As a queer WOC, representation is important and Elementary does a good job of representing, but I gotta say representation≠good show. Good shows come from intricate story lines. Throwing a variety of people  into the show in a predictable story line really isn’t, so arguing “but it has good representation” doesn’t make it a good show.

Elementary doesn’t really do a good job representing WOC
You have Joan obviously played by the spectacular Lucy Liu, of course but there aren’t really any other women of color on the show, save for one off minor characters. It doesn’t have much in way of white women either, you have Moriarty, and Miss Hudson(who has gotten maybe 15 minutes of screentime total) If you want to reach you could include Emily and Ms. Truepenny, but they are extremely minor characters who haven’t actually been involved in the main plots.
Even Joan’s presence was downplayed for a lot of season 2, to the show’s detriment. 
Representation contributes to character. It contributes to plot. It adds a perspective that is less commonly seen on tv. All of which lead to more interesting and intricate storylines. Having diverse characters of different races, genders, sexual orientations etc. adds something to the story having only straight white men doesn’t.
good representation doesn’t make a “good show”.
 It makes a better show. 
whether or not the downplaying of Joan in this season is because of racism & misogyny on the part of someone behind the show or just some kind of weird flub,(the first one in all likelyhood tbh but i doubt it will ever be confirmed) the result is the same. It isn’t so simple as having a previously white male character played by a woman of color. Because we see the actress stuck in the background reacting to her white male coworker. The racism/sexism is still present in the way the characters are utilized in the plot. Joan’s development in season 2 was pretty patchy because thats the way she was scripted, thats what the writers of elementary chose to write for her, and maybe they had some kind of interference at a network level I don’t know. I don’t get to see behind the scenes. I just get the finished product. The lack of plot involvement and character development Joan got in season two really hurt the show’s quality as a whole. the over focus on Sherlock’s character came not only at the expense of other character’s development but also lost it’s punch for sherlock’s character development. Every episode that introduced you to a new penpal or associate of sherlock’s kind of undermined his own character, and the lack of those characters (Randy) in following episodes made him look callous and made the development seem unimportant. 
The lack of representation in season 2 made it worse then it could have been even with the plot lines staying as they were.
There are more problems with elementary as a show but representation is still a big one.

bulletproofbell knocking it out of the park, damn.

beanarie:

bulletproofbell:

elementaryconfessions:

As a queer WOC, representation is important and Elementary does a good job of representing, but I gotta say representation≠good show. Good shows come from intricate story lines. Throwing a variety of people  into the show in a predictable story line really isn’t, so arguing “but it has good representation” doesn’t make it a good show.

Elementary doesn’t really do a good job representing WOC

You have Joan obviously played by the spectacular Lucy Liu, of course but there aren’t really any other women of color on the show, save for one off minor characters. It doesn’t have much in way of white women either, you have Moriarty, and Miss Hudson(who has gotten maybe 15 minutes of screentime total) If you want to reach you could include Emily and Ms. Truepenny, but they are extremely minor characters who haven’t actually been involved in the main plots.

Even Joan’s presence was downplayed for a lot of season 2, to the show’s detriment. 

Representation contributes to character. It contributes to plot. It adds a perspective that is less commonly seen on tv. All of which lead to more interesting and intricate storylines. Having diverse characters of different races, genders, sexual orientations etc. adds something to the story having only straight white men doesn’t.

good representation doesn’t make a “good show”.

 It makes a better show. 

whether or not the downplaying of Joan in this season is because of racism & misogyny on the part of someone behind the show or just some kind of weird flub,(the first one in all likelyhood tbh but i doubt it will ever be confirmed) the result is the same. It isn’t so simple as having a previously white male character played by a woman of color. Because we see the actress stuck in the background reacting to her white male coworker. The racism/sexism is still present in the way the characters are utilized in the plot. Joan’s development in season 2 was pretty patchy because thats the way she was scripted, thats what the writers of elementary chose to write for her, and maybe they had some kind of interference at a network level I don’t know. I don’t get to see behind the scenes. I just get the finished product. The lack of plot involvement and character development Joan got in season two really hurt the show’s quality as a whole. the over focus on Sherlock’s character came not only at the expense of other character’s development but also lost it’s punch for sherlock’s character development. Every episode that introduced you to a new penpal or associate of sherlock’s kind of undermined his own character, and the lack of those characters (Randy) in following episodes made him look callous and made the development seem unimportant. 

The lack of representation in season 2 made it worse then it could have been even with the plot lines staying as they were.

There are more problems with elementary as a show but representation is still a big one.

bulletproofbell knocking it out of the park, damn.

frankly i’m tired of all this criticism directed at lucy in the elementary fandom. as a WOC, an asian american in being a household name in hollywood for over a goddamn decade, that is fucking amazing. that is not something she could’ve done if she was as crap as some of y’all think she is

meanwhile natalie dormer could shit on your chest and you’d ask for more

p0ndicous:

*Coughs* KarenGillanBecauseNot obsessed at all*Coughs*

L M F A O

p0ndicous:

*Coughs* KarenGillanBecauseNot obsessed at all*Coughs*

L M F A O

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antoinetrip:

i joined the bandwagon oops

hab3rdash:

my little contribution. This was fun! I wanna do more!